Discussion GEO Basics Getting Started

Complete beginner to GEO. What should I actually do first? The guides online are overwhelming

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GEO_Newbie_Sam · Marketing Coordinator
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GEO_Newbie_Sam
Marketing Coordinator · December 29, 2025

My boss told me to “figure out GEO” after reading an article about AI search. I’ve spent two days reading and I’m more confused than when I started.

What I’ve learned so far:

  • GEO = Generative Engine Optimization
  • It’s about appearing in AI answers (ChatGPT, Perplexity, etc.)
  • It’s different from regular SEO
  • Everyone says it’s important

What I don’t understand:

  • Where do I actually START?
  • Do I need special tools?
  • How much of our current SEO work transfers?
  • What can I do TODAY that will make a difference?
  • How do I even know if it’s working?

Our situation:

  • Mid-size B2B SaaS company
  • Decent SEO (rank well for key terms)
  • No AI visibility work done yet
  • I have maybe 10-15 hours/week for this

Please help me create a simple starting point. Not a comprehensive strategy - just what to do FIRST.

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GEO_Educator Expert GEO Training Consultant · December 29, 2025

Perfect timing to start! Here’s the simplest possible day-one playbook:

Day 1: Establish Your Baseline (2 hours)

  1. Open ChatGPT and Perplexity
  2. Ask 10-15 questions your target customers would ask
  3. Document:
    • Do you appear in any responses?
    • Which competitors appear?
    • How are they described?

This baseline tells you where you stand and what you’re competing against.

Day 2: Technical Quick Wins (3 hours)

  1. Check your robots.txt - make sure you’re NOT blocking:

    • GPTBot
    • ClaudeBot
    • PerplexityBot
  2. Check if you have Organization schema on your site (Google Rich Results Test)

  3. If missing, add it (or ask your developer)

Day 3-5: Content Audit (5 hours)

Look at your top 5 pages by traffic:

  • Do they answer questions directly in the first paragraph?
  • Do they have clear headings as questions?
  • Do they have FAQ sections?

Week 2: First Optimizations

Pick your single most important page. Restructure it:

  • Put the answer in the first sentence
  • Add an FAQ section with schema
  • Include data/statistics
  • Add expert quotes if relevant

That’s it for month 1.

Don’t try to do everything. Start small, measure, learn.

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GEO_Newbie_Sam OP · December 29, 2025
Replying to GEO_Educator
This is exactly what I needed. One question: How do I know if AI crawlers are being blocked? Is there a simple way to check?
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GEO_Educator Expert · December 29, 2025
Replying to GEO_Newbie_Sam

Super simple check:

Go to: yourwebsite.com/robots.txt

Look for lines like:

User-agent: GPTBot
Disallow: /

If you see “Disallow: /” for AI crawlers, you’re blocking them.

What you WANT to see:

User-agent: GPTBot
Allow: /

User-agent: ClaudeBot
Allow: /

User-agent: PerplexityBot
Allow: /

If there’s nothing about AI crawlers:

That’s actually fine! No rules = allowed by default.

If you’re blocked:

Talk to your developer. They may have blocked AI crawlers when someone panicked about “AI scraping” without understanding the implications.

Common patterns I see:

  • Marketing teams don’t know they’re blocked
  • IT/security blocked AI crawlers “just in case”
  • Old robots.txt rules that were never updated

This is the #1 technical issue that prevents AI visibility. Check it today.

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SEOtoGEO_Transition SEO Manager transitioning to GEO · December 28, 2025

Coming from SEO background - here’s what transfers and what doesn’t:

What DOES transfer from SEO:

  1. Quality content matters - Still foundation of everything
  2. Technical accessibility - Site needs to be crawlable
  3. Backlinks matter - Authority signals still important
  4. User intent - Understanding what people search for
  5. Keyword research - Understanding topics (though applied differently)

What DOESN’T transfer:

  1. Ranking position focus - GEO is about being cited, not ranking #1
  2. Click-through rate optimization - Different metric entirely
  3. Meta description focus - Less relevant for AI extraction
  4. Exact keyword matching - AI understands semantics better

Key mental shift:

SEO: “How do I rank higher than competitors?” GEO: “How do I become a source AI trusts enough to cite?”

Practical difference:

For SEO, you optimize a page to rank for a keyword. For GEO, you optimize content to be extractable and citable by AI.

Same foundation, different application.

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SimpleStart_Mike · December 28, 2025

The single simplest thing you can do today:

Restructure one page.

Pick your most important product/service page and make these changes:

Before (typical page): “Welcome to [Company]. We’ve been providing [service] for 15 years. Our mission is to help businesses succeed through innovative solutions…”

After (GEO-optimized): “[Service] is [direct definition in 15 words]. [Company] provides [specific benefit] for [target audience]. Here’s what you need to know…”

The formula:

Paragraph 1: Direct answer to “What is this?” Paragraph 2: Key benefits/features Paragraph 3: Who it’s for Rest: Supporting details

Why this works:

AI extracts information from the beginning of content. If your key information is buried after 200 words of intro, AI might not cite it.

Time investment: 30 minutes to restructure one page

Potential impact: That page becomes citable by AI

Do this for one page today. You’ll learn more from doing than reading.

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ToolsForBeginners · December 28, 2025

Tools you need to get started (some free):

Free tools:

  1. ChatGPT - Test queries manually (free tier works)
  2. Perplexity - Another AI to test (free tier)
  3. Google Rich Results Test - Check your schema
  4. PageSpeed Insights - Check page speed
  5. Schema.org Validator - Validate structured data

Paid tools worth considering:

  1. Am I Cited - Monitor AI visibility systematically
  2. SEMrush/Ahrefs - Still useful for keyword research and backlinks
  3. Screaming Frog - Technical audits

What you DON’T need yet:

  • Expensive enterprise platforms
  • Complex AI monitoring suites
  • Custom-built tools

My recommendation for beginners:

Start with free tools. Do manual testing for the first month. You’ll learn more about how AI works by testing queries yourself than by looking at dashboards.

When you’re ready to scale, THEN invest in monitoring tools.

Don’t let tool paralysis stop you from starting.

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Prioritization_Expert · December 27, 2025

Priority matrix for GEO beginners:

Do First (High Impact, Low Effort):

  1. Check robots.txt for AI blockers
  2. Add Organization schema (if missing)
  3. Restructure top 3 page intros
  4. Add FAQ schema to existing FAQ content

Do Second (High Impact, Medium Effort):

  1. Content restructuring for key pages
  2. Create Wikidata entry
  3. Add FAQ sections to top pages
  4. Implement author bios with credentials

Do Third (Medium Impact, Higher Effort):

  1. Build comprehensive pillar content
  2. Link building for authority
  3. Original research/data creation
  4. PR for brand mentions

Skip for Now:

  • Complex technical implementations
  • Multi-platform optimization
  • Advanced schema types
  • Competitor deep analysis

The principle:

80% of your results will come from 20% of efforts. Focus on that 20% first.

For a beginner with 10-15 hours/week:

  • Week 1: Technical quick wins
  • Week 2-3: Content restructuring
  • Week 4: FAQ additions
  • Then assess and iterate
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MeasurementSimple · December 27, 2025

How to know if GEO is working (simple version):

Weekly Check (15 minutes):

Same queries you tested in week 1:

  • Do you appear now?
  • Any change in how you’re described?
  • Any change in citation position?

Keep a simple spreadsheet:

QueryWeek 1Week 2Week 3Week 4
“Best [category]”Not mentionedNot mentionedMentioned 4thMentioned 3rd
“[Your product] vs [Competitor]”Not mentionedMentionedMentionedMentioned 1st

What to track:

  • Mentioned: Yes/No
  • Position: 1st, 2nd, etc.
  • Sentiment: Positive/Neutral/Negative

Timeline expectations:

  • Technical fixes: May see impact in 2-4 weeks
  • Content changes: Usually 4-8 weeks
  • Authority building: 3-6 months

The reality:

AI visibility changes slower than you want but faster than traditional SEO. Be patient but persistent.

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CommonMistakes_Lisa · December 26, 2025

Common beginner mistakes to avoid:

Mistake 1: Trying to do everything at once GEO guides list 50 things to do. You have 15 hours/week. Pick 3-5 high-impact items and do them well.

Mistake 2: Obsessing over tools You can start GEO with zero paid tools. Manual testing teaches you more initially.

Mistake 3: Ignoring existing SEO work Good SEO is a foundation for GEO. Don’t abandon what’s working - build on it.

Mistake 4: Expecting instant results AI systems don’t update in real-time. Give changes 4-8 weeks before judging.

Mistake 5: Only optimizing for ChatGPT There are multiple AI platforms. What works for ChatGPT may not work for Perplexity or Gemini.

Mistake 6: Copying competitors blindly Just because a competitor is visible doesn’t mean everything they do is right. Understand WHY something works.

Mistake 7: Neglecting content quality No amount of optimization fixes bad content. AI rewards helpful, accurate, well-structured content.

Focus on fundamentals. Be patient. Measure consistently.

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GEO_Newbie_Sam OP Marketing Coordinator · December 25, 2025

This thread gave me exactly what I needed - a simple starting point instead of analysis paralysis.

My Week 1 Plan:

Day 1 (Today):

  • Test 15 queries across ChatGPT and Perplexity
  • Document baseline in spreadsheet
  • Check robots.txt for AI crawler blocks

Day 2:

  • Check for Organization schema (Google Rich Results Test)
  • If missing, create ticket for developer

Day 3-4:

  • Audit top 5 pages for structure
  • Note what needs restructuring

Day 5:

  • Restructure one page (most important product page)
  • Put answer first, add clear structure

Week 2 Plan:

  • Continue restructuring 2-3 more pages
  • Add FAQ schema to existing FAQ content
  • Retest same 15 queries

What I’m NOT doing yet:

  • Complex tools
  • Comprehensive competitor analysis
  • Advanced schema implementation
  • Multi-platform optimization

Key insights that helped me:

  1. Start with baseline testing before optimizing anything
  2. Technical quick wins (robots.txt, schema) come first
  3. Content restructuring is the biggest lever I can control
  4. Measure weekly with same queries
  5. Be patient - expect 4-8 weeks for changes to show

Thanks everyone for making GEO accessible to a complete beginner!

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Frequently Asked Questions

What is GEO and how is it different from SEO?
GEO (Generative Engine Optimization) focuses on getting your content cited in AI-generated answers from ChatGPT, Perplexity, and similar platforms. Unlike SEO which optimizes for search rankings, GEO optimizes for AI citations. The key difference: SEO gets you traffic from clicks, GEO gets you mentioned in AI responses.
What should be the first step when starting GEO?
Start with a baseline audit: test 10-15 relevant queries across ChatGPT and Perplexity to see if your brand appears. Document who does appear and who doesn’t. This baseline shows your starting point and reveals competitor visibility, which guides your strategy.
How long does it take to see results from GEO efforts?
Technical fixes (robots.txt, schema) can show impact in 2-4 weeks. Content restructuring typically takes 4-8 weeks to affect citations. Building authority through links and PR takes 3-6 months. Most organizations see meaningful improvement within 90 days of focused effort.

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