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Getting a Wikipedia page for your brand - is it worth the effort? Just spent 6 months trying

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PRManager_David · PR Manager
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PRManager_David
PR Manager · December 21, 2025

Just went through a 6-month Wikipedia journey. Let me share what I learned.

The backstory: We’re a mid-sized B2B company (~$50M revenue). We wanted a Wikipedia page because:

  1. It signals legitimacy
  2. It’s great for AI visibility (especially ChatGPT)
  3. Competitors had pages, we didn’t

What happened:

  • Month 1-2: Research, realized we didn’t meet notability
  • Month 3-4: Aggressive PR push to generate coverage
  • Month 5: Submitted draft article
  • Month 6: Rejected, told to improve sources

Current status: Still no Wikipedia page. Was it worth the effort? Mixed feelings.

Questions for the community:

  • What actually works for getting a Wikipedia page?
  • Is the AI visibility benefit worth the effort?
  • Should we hire a “Wikipedia consultant” (are they legit)?
  • Alternatives if we can’t get a page?

Looking for honest experiences, not theory.

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WikipediaExpert_Sarah Expert Former Wikipedia Editor · December 21, 2025

Former Wikipedia editor here. Let me share the inside perspective:

Why most company pages fail:

  1. Not actually notable - Coverage exists, but it’s:

    • Press releases repackaged
    • Directory listings
    • Passing mentions, not substantive coverage
    • Affiliated sources (industry publications too close to company)
  2. Obvious COI editing - Wikipedia editors can spot company-written content instantly

  3. Promotional tone - Even subtle marketing language gets flagged

What actually establishes notability:

Source TypeWikipedia ValueExample
Major newspaper featureVery HighNYT profile of your company
Business magazine coverageHighForbes company analysis
Industry publication (independent)Medium-HighIndustry analyst report
Academic citationHighBusiness school case study
Press releaseZeroAnything you wrote yourself
Trade publication (affiliated)LowIndustry magazine you advertise in

The honest assessment:

A $50M B2B company might not naturally be notable to Wikipedia. The standard is essentially “would a general encyclopedia reader expect to find this company?”

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PRManager_David OP · December 21, 2025
Replying to WikipediaExpert_Sarah
This is sobering. What about “Wikipedia consultants” who guarantee they can get pages created? Some charge $15-30K.
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WikipediaExpert_Sarah Expert · December 21, 2025
Replying to PRManager_David

About Wikipedia consultants:

Red flags:

  • “Guarantee” page creation (impossible to guarantee)
  • Won’t disclose methodology
  • Create pages without disclosing paid editing
  • Low prices ($1-5K) - probably using black hat tactics

Legitimate consultants:

  • Will assess notability BEFORE taking your money
  • Disclose paid editing relationship on Wikipedia
  • Won’t create pages for non-notable companies
  • Focus on gathering/organizing existing sources, not manufacturing coverage
  • Typically $10-20K+ for full service (because it’s hard and risky)

The problem:

Many “consultants” will take your money, create a page using undisclosed paid editing, and it gets deleted 3-6 months later. You have no recourse.

Better approach:

Invest that $20K in PR to generate the coverage that makes you genuinely notable. Then the Wikipedia page happens naturally (or a neutral editor creates it).

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AIVisibility_Analyst · December 21, 2025

Let me share data on why Wikipedia matters for AI:

Wikipedia influence on AI systems:

AI PlatformWikipedia WeightHow It Shows
ChatGPTVery High (~27% of citations)Directly draws from Wikipedia content
PerplexityMedium-HighUses Wikipedia for background info
Google AIMediumPart of knowledge graph
ClaudeMediumIncluded in training data

The impact of having a Wikipedia page:

Companies WITH Wikipedia pages:

  • 3.5x more likely to be mentioned by ChatGPT for brand queries
  • More likely to have accurate information presented
  • Better entity recognition across platforms

BUT (important caveats):

  1. A stub/minimal Wikipedia page has limited value
  2. A page flagged for COI issues can hurt more than help
  3. Wikipedia is ONE signal among many

The alternative strategy:

If you can’t get a Wikipedia page:

  • Get mentioned IN relevant Wikipedia articles (easier)
  • Focus on other high-authority sources AI uses
  • Build presence on Crunchbase, industry databases

Wikipedia is high-value but not the only path to AI visibility.

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StartupFounder_Michelle Founder · December 20, 2025

We went through this process successfully. Here’s what worked:

Our situation:

  • Tech startup, $30M raised
  • Notable co-founders with individual pages
  • Covered in TechCrunch, WSJ, several times

What got us approved (after 2 attempts):

  1. Built genuine notability first (18 months)

    • Major publication coverage
    • Industry awards
    • Analyst firm mentions
    • Customer case studies in business press
  2. Had a neutral Wikipedia editor create the page

    • Not us, not a consultant we hired
    • An editor interested in our industry who noticed we were notable
  3. Minimal, neutral content

    • Just facts, no marketing language
    • Well-sourced with 15+ references
    • Short and factual, not comprehensive

Key insight:

We didn’t try to create our own page. We focused on becoming genuinely notable, then the page happened naturally.

Timeline:

  • Months 1-12: PR focus on substantive coverage
  • Month 14: Noticed a draft existed
  • Month 18: Page went live
  • Total time: 18 months, but Wikipedia wasn’t the goal, visibility was
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ContentStrategist_James · December 20, 2025

Let me share alternatives if Wikipedia isn’t achievable:

High-authority platforms AI also values:

PlatformAI WeightAchievability
CrunchbaseHighEasy (create profile)
LinkedIn Company PageMediumEasy
G2/CapterraMedium-HighEasy for SaaS
Industry associationsMediumMembership required
Government databasesMediumIf applicable
Academic citationsHighDifficult

Strategy for “Wikipedia adjacency”:

  1. Wikidata entry - Lower bar than Wikipedia, still helps
  2. Mentioned in existing articles - Add your company as example in relevant Wikipedia articles (if appropriate and not promotional)
  3. Sources for Wikipedia - Create content Wikipedia editors might cite

The Wikidata approach:

Wikidata is Wikipedia’s structured data database. You can create an entity for your company with basic facts (founding date, industry, location). This helps AI systems understand your company as an entity even without a full Wikipedia article.

Requirements are lower than Wikipedia. Worth exploring.

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PRAgency_Director PR Agency Director · December 20, 2025

Agency perspective on Wikipedia strategy:

What we tell clients:

  1. Wikipedia should not be a goal - It’s an outcome of being notable
  2. PR investment is the real work - The coverage that makes you notable
  3. Timeline is years, not months - For most companies

Our approach:

We never promise Wikipedia pages. We promise:

  • Strategic media coverage
  • Thought leadership placements
  • Industry recognition
  • Coverage that COULD support Wikipedia notability

If Wikipedia happens as a result, great. If not, the coverage itself has value.

Red flag clients:

“We need a Wikipedia page in 3 months” - These clients are setting themselves up for failure or unethical shortcuts.

Realistic timeline:

For a company currently not notable:

  • Year 1: Build coverage foundation
  • Year 2: Expand media presence, awards, recognition
  • Year 3: Evaluate Wikipedia feasibility

If you’re not willing to invest 2-3 years, Wikipedia probably isn’t for you.

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EthicsInPR_Laura · December 19, 2025

Ethics angle that gets overlooked:

Why undisclosed Wikipedia editing backfires:

  1. Community monitoring - Wikipedia has tools to detect coordinated editing
  2. Permanent record - Your attempts are logged forever
  3. Reputation damage - Being caught is worse than no page
  4. Legal risk - Some jurisdictions view this as deceptive practice

What’s OK:

  • Requesting corrections to factual errors (disclosed)
  • Suggesting sources on talk pages
  • Creating Wikidata entries (more permissive)

What’s NOT OK:

  • Creating your own article without disclosure
  • Hiring editors who don’t disclose
  • Manipulating sources to appear independent

The irony:

Companies that engage in undisclosed editing often end up LESS visible because their pages get deleted and they get flagged for future scrutiny.

The ethical path:

Focus on becoming genuinely notable. If you deserve a Wikipedia page, it will happen. If you don’t, no amount of manipulation will make it stick.

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PRManager_David OP PR Manager · December 19, 2025

This discussion has really clarified my thinking. Here’s my updated approach:

What I learned:

  1. Wikipedia is an outcome, not a goal - We were approaching this backwards
  2. Notability can’t be manufactured - Our PR wasn’t generating the RIGHT kind of coverage
  3. Shortcuts are dangerous - Wikipedia consultants who guarantee results are probably unethical
  4. Alternatives exist - Wikidata, other high-authority platforms

New strategy:

Immediate (this quarter):

  • Create comprehensive Wikidata entry
  • Optimize Crunchbase profile
  • Ensure all high-authority platform profiles are complete

Medium-term (this year):

  • Shift PR focus to substantive coverage (features, not mentions)
  • Target publications Wikipedia editors trust
  • Build toward genuine notability

Long-term (2-3 years):

  • Re-evaluate Wikipedia feasibility
  • If notable, let a neutral editor create the page
  • Don’t force it

The mindset shift:

We were trying to game Wikipedia for AI visibility. Instead, we should build the kind of presence that makes Wikipedia natural.

Thanks everyone for the honest perspectives.

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Frequently Asked Questions

Why does Wikipedia matter for AI visibility?
Wikipedia is one of the most heavily weighted sources for AI systems, especially ChatGPT. Research shows Wikipedia accounts for ~27% of ChatGPT citations. Having Wikipedia presence significantly increases your chances of being mentioned in AI answers.
What are Wikipedia's notability requirements for companies?
Wikipedia requires significant coverage from multiple reliable, independent, secondary sources. Companies typically need 10-20 quality third-party sources with substantial coverage (not just mentions) to meet notability standards.
Can I create my own company's Wikipedia page?
Technically yes, but it’s highly discouraged. Wikipedia editors are vigilant about undisclosed paid editing and self-promotion. Pages created by company employees are often flagged and deleted. If you must be involved, disclose the conflict of interest.
How long does it take to get a Wikipedia page?
The page creation process can take weeks to months. The bigger investment is building the media coverage that establishes notability, which can take years. Companies trying to shortcut this often fail.

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