Our brand doesn't show up in ChatGPT or Perplexity at all - what are we doing wrong?
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We’re legitimately an industry leader:
But when I ask ChatGPT “What are the best [our category] tools?” we don’t appear. Smaller competitors do.
What’s going on:
What we have:
How do you actually get ChatGPT to know you exist?
This is a common pattern. Business success doesn’t equal AI visibility.
How ChatGPT “knows” brands:
Source 1: Training Data ChatGPT learned from web content. If your brand wasn’t frequently mentioned in that content, ChatGPT doesn’t “know” you.
What matters:
Source 2: Web Browsing (when enabled) ChatGPT can search the web for current information. This is where you have more control.
Why your competitors might be more visible:
Even if they’re smaller, they might have:
The fix:
You need to build presence in sources ChatGPT trusts, not just business metrics.
Market share doesn’t help ChatGPT. Web presence in authoritative sources does.
At $50M ARR, you likely meet notability requirements.
Wikipedia notability for companies requires “significant coverage in reliable, independent sources.”
At your scale, you probably have:
Compile these sources. If you have 3-5 substantial articles from reliable sources, you may be notable.
Why Wikipedia matters for ChatGPT:
Wikipedia is heavily weighted in AI training data. A Wikipedia page about your company:
Steps:
In the meantime: Wikidata
You can create a Wikidata entry without meeting Wikipedia notability. This still helps AI systems understand your entity.
Let me explain training data reality:
ChatGPT’s Knowledge:
ChatGPT learned from:
If your brand wasn’t discussed in these sources before the training cutoff, ChatGPT doesn’t inherently “know” you.
What this means:
Visible brands likely have:
Invisible brands likely have:
The gap:
You can be hugely successful in business while being invisible to AI because AI learned from different sources than business metrics.
The fix:
Build presence in sources AI actually learns from, not just sources your customers see.
OpenAI has publishing partners. Getting mentioned there helps:
Known OpenAI Content Partners:
Coverage in these sources may have preferential treatment in ChatGPT.
PR Strategy for AI Visibility:
Target AI-indexed publications Research which publications appear frequently in ChatGPT citations. Target those.
Create newsworthy moments Funding rounds, major partnerships, industry reports - things that generate coverage.
Expert commentary Get quoted on industry trends. Your brand name appears in authoritative sources.
Original research Publish data that journalists cite. Creates ongoing brand mentions.
The shift:
Traditional PR: “Get coverage for credibility” AI-era PR: “Get coverage in AI-indexed sources for visibility”
Same activity, different targeting.
Optimizing for ChatGPT’s web browsing mode:
When users enable browsing: ChatGPT can search the current web and cite sources. This is where you have more control.
What helps:
User-agent: ChatGPT-User
Allow: /
This allows ChatGPT’s browsing mode to access your content.
Content structure for extraction When ChatGPT browses, it needs to extract answers. Well-structured content gets cited.
Answer the right questions What questions would someone ask ChatGPT where you’re the answer? Create content that directly answers those.
Competitive comparison content “[Competitor A] vs [Competitor B] vs [You]” - AI may cite this when people ask for comparisons.
Browsing vs Training:
Training data = harder to influence (already collected) Browsing = real-time, you can optimize for it now
Focus on browsing optimization while building presence for future training.
G2 and review platforms help:
ChatGPT uses G2 data: I’ve seen ChatGPT cite G2 ratings and reviews. Having strong G2 presence helps.
Optimization:
Why it works: G2 is authoritative, structured, and frequently updated. ChatGPT (especially when browsing) can pull data from it.
Similar platforms:
Strong presence across these = more chances of AI citation.
Content strategy specifically for ChatGPT mentions:
Create content that answers:
When ChatGPT browses for answers to these questions, your content should appear.
Format for ChatGPT:
Example:
Create: “Best [Category] Tools for [Use Case]: Complete Guide”
Include:
When someone asks ChatGPT about your category, this content is citation-ready.
This thread explained our gap. We’re a business success but an AI visibility failure.
Root Cause:
Our Action Plan:
Immediate (Week 1-2):
Short-term (Month 1-3): 5. Pursue Wikipedia page (compile evidence of notability) 6. PR strategy targeting AI-indexed publications 7. Create comparison content including ourselves 8. Original research to generate citations
Medium-term (Month 3-6): 9. Build presence on Reddit (organic participation) 10. Industry thought leadership 11. Expand coverage in major publications
Key insight:
Business leadership doesn’t equal AI visibility. You need presence in sources AI actually learns from and cites.
$50M ARR means nothing to ChatGPT. Wikipedia, major publications, and structured web content does.
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