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What are the real differences between optimizing for AI search vs Google? My playbook feels outdated

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SEOVeteran_Chris · Head of Search, Marketing Agency
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SEOVeteran_Chris
Head of Search, Marketing Agency · December 28, 2025

I’ve been doing SEO for 12 years. I know Google inside out. But AI search feels like a different game entirely.

What’s confusing me:

Some clients rank well in Google but never appear in AI answers. Others barely rank in Google but get mentioned by ChatGPT constantly.

My observations:

  • Keyword optimization seems less important for AI
  • Backlinks don’t correlate with AI visibility like I expected
  • Content length matters differently
  • Some ranking factors seem irrelevant for AI

What I need to understand:

  • What signals actually matter for AI vs. Google?
  • Which of my SEO skills transfer, which don’t?
  • Should I treat these as separate disciplines?
  • What new skills do I need to develop?
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AISearchStrategist_Emma Expert AI Search Consultant · December 28, 2025

Chris, you’ve identified the core tension. They’re related but distinct disciplines.

The fundamental difference:

Google: Ranks pages based on relevance + authority signals AI: Synthesizes answers from multiple sources it trusts

Signal comparison:

SignalGoogle ImportanceAI Importance
BacklinksVery HighLow-Medium
Keyword densityMediumLow
Domain authorityHighMedium
Content freshnessMediumVery High
Brand mentionsLowHigh
Structured dataMediumHigh
Content comprehensivenessHighVery High
Third-party citationsMediumVery High

The key insight:

Google asks: “Which page deserves to rank #1?” AI asks: “What sources should I cite when answering this question?”

These are different questions with different answers.

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SEOVeteran_Chris OP · December 28, 2025
Replying to AISearchStrategist_Emma

The third-party citations point is interesting. So instead of building links, I should focus on getting mentioned?

What’s the practical difference between a backlink and a brand mention for AI?

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AISearchStrategist_Emma · December 28, 2025
Replying to SEOVeteran_Chris

Links vs. Mentions:

Backlink (Traditional SEO):

  • Technical hyperlink
  • Passes PageRank
  • Can be in any context
  • Google can measure directly

Brand mention (AI):

  • Text reference to your brand
  • No technical connection needed
  • Context matters (positive/negative/neutral)
  • AI interprets meaning from surrounding text

Example:

A press release with a backlink but generic text: helps Google A Forbes article that says “[Brand] is the leading solution for [use case]”: helps AI

The strategic shift:

Instead of “get me a backlink from Forbes,” think “get Forbes to write favorably about us in context.”

The mention teaches AI about you. The link taught Google about you.

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ContentDirector_Rachel Content Strategy Director · December 27, 2025

Content strategy differences between AI and Google:

Google-optimized content:

  • Keyword-focused
  • Structured for rankings (H1, H2, keyword placement)
  • Often longer to hit word count targets
  • Optimized meta descriptions for clicks
  • Internal linking for crawlability

AI-optimized content:

  • Answer-focused
  • Structured for extraction (clear statements, tables, lists)
  • Length depends on comprehensiveness, not targets
  • Semantic richness over keyword placement
  • External citations to build credibility

What works for both:

  • User-focused quality
  • Clear, authoritative writing
  • Comprehensive topic coverage
  • Fresh, updated content

The practical approach:

We now create content with dual optimization:

  1. Core content that serves users and AI
  2. Technical SEO elements for Google
  3. Structured data for both
  4. Different success metrics for each channel
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TechnicalSEO_Mike Expert · December 27, 2025

Technical SEO differences:

What still matters for both:

  • Site speed and Core Web Vitals
  • Mobile optimization
  • Crawlability
  • Site structure
  • HTTPS

What matters MORE for AI:

  • Structured data (FAQ, HowTo, Product schema)
  • Content accessibility (not hidden in JS)
  • Clear HTML structure
  • Publication dates and freshness signals
  • Author attribution

What matters LESS for AI:

  • Internal link structure (for PageRank)
  • URL optimization
  • Canonical tags (AI doesn’t see)
  • Robots.txt nuances

New technical elements for AI:

  • AI bot access (don’t block GPTBot, Anthropic, etc.)
  • Schema markup beyond Google’s requirements
  • Freshness signals in metadata
  • Proper author markup for E-E-A-T
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AgencyFounder_Tom Founder, Search Agency · December 27, 2025

Agency perspective on managing both:

How we structure services:

Core SEO (still essential):

  • Technical foundation
  • Content strategy
  • Link building
  • Ranking monitoring

AI Visibility (new layer):

  • AI citation monitoring
  • Brand mention strategy
  • Structured data for AI
  • Freshness maintenance
  • Third-party presence

Resource allocation (for a typical client):

  • 60% traditional SEO
  • 40% AI visibility

Why not 50/50:

Google still drives 90%+ of search traffic. But AI is growing fast and has higher conversion rates. We’re gradually shifting as the market shifts.

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DataAnalyst_Linda · December 26, 2025

Data perspective on AI vs. Google performance:

Our analysis of 500+ URLs:

MetricCorrelation with Google RankingsCorrelation with AI Citations
Backlinks0.720.21
Domain Authority0.680.28
Content length0.410.35
Content freshness0.320.67
Brand mentions0.250.71
Structured data0.380.54
Keyword density0.450.18

Key insights:

  1. Backlinks matter 3x more for Google than AI
  2. Brand mentions matter 3x more for AI than Google
  3. Freshness matters 2x more for AI
  4. Keyword density barely matters for AI

These are genuinely different ranking factors.

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ContentCreator_Jason · December 26, 2025

Writer’s perspective on the difference:

Writing for Google:

  • Target keyword in title, H1, first paragraph
  • Keyword variations throughout
  • LSI keywords for semantic coverage
  • Word count targets
  • Meta description optimization

Writing for AI:

  • Answer the question directly
  • Provide comprehensive coverage
  • Use clear, quotable statements
  • Include specific data points
  • Structure for extraction

How I write now:

I write for humans first (which serves AI well), then add SEO elements for Google.

The “write for humans” advice was always right, but it’s now literally the AI strategy. AI extracts content that sounds human and authoritative.

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MeasurementPro_Sarah · December 25, 2025

Measurement differences:

Google metrics:

  • Rankings for target keywords
  • Organic traffic
  • Click-through rates
  • Impressions
  • Conversions from organic

AI metrics:

  • Citation frequency
  • Brand mention rate
  • Share of voice in AI answers
  • Sentiment in mentions
  • AI-attributed conversions

The challenge:

Google Search Console shows your Google performance. There’s no “AI Search Console.”

You need tools like Am I Cited to track AI visibility. It’s a different measurement infrastructure entirely.

Our approach:

Weekly AI visibility reports alongside weekly SEO reports. Different dashboards, different KPIs, different optimization strategies.

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IndustryAnalyst_Kevin · December 25, 2025

Industry perspective on where this is heading:

Current state:

  • Google: 48.5% of web traffic
  • AI: 0.15% of web traffic

But:

  • AI traffic growing 7x faster
  • AI visitors convert 4.4x higher
  • AI is becoming first touchpoint for many queries

Prediction:

In 3 years:

  • Google: Still dominant for transactional queries
  • AI: Dominant for research and recommendation queries

Strategic implication:

You need both, but for different reasons:

  • Google: Volume and transactions
  • AI: Quality discovery and recommendations

The skills overlap but the emphasis differs.

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SEOVeteran_Chris OP Head of Search, Marketing Agency · December 25, 2025

This thread clarified the landscape. Here’s my new mental model:

What transfers from SEO to AI:

  • Content quality fundamentals
  • User intent understanding
  • Technical optimization basics
  • Authority building (different tactics)
  • Measurement discipline (different metrics)

What’s different for AI:

  • Mentions > Links
  • Freshness > Age
  • Comprehensiveness > Keywords
  • Third-party validation > On-page optimization
  • Citations > Rankings

My updated playbook:

Foundation (serves both):

  • Quality, comprehensive content
  • Strong technical foundation
  • Clear site structure
  • Fresh, maintained content

Google-specific layer:

  • Keyword targeting
  • Link building
  • Ranking optimization
  • Traditional SEO elements

AI-specific layer:

  • Brand mention building
  • Structured data expansion
  • Third-party presence
  • Citation monitoring

Resource allocation shift:

Moving from 100% traditional SEO to:

  • 65% traditional SEO
  • 35% AI visibility

Will likely shift further as AI traffic grows.

Thanks everyone for helping me update a 12-year-old playbook.

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What are the main differences between AI search and traditional search optimization?
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Do traditional SEO skills still apply to AI optimization?
Many foundational skills transfer: content quality, user intent understanding, technical optimization, and authority building. However, the tactics differ significantly. Keyword density matters less; semantic comprehensiveness matters more. Backlinks are less important than brand mentions. New skills include structured data optimization and citation tracking.
Should I optimize for AI search or traditional search?
Both, but with different emphases based on your audience. Traditional search still drives most web traffic (48.5% vs. 0.15% for AI). However, AI search is growing rapidly and AI-referred visitors convert 4.4x higher. A balanced strategy optimizes for both, recognizing they have different signals and require different content approaches.

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