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What are the actual ranking factors for AI search? Not Google - ChatGPT, Perplexity, etc.

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Ranking_Factors_Hunt · SEO Director
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Ranking_Factors_Hunt
SEO Director · December 24, 2025

We know Google’s ranking factors (or at least we think we do). But what about AI systems?

When ChatGPT or Perplexity decides to cite a source, what are they actually evaluating?

What I’ve been assuming:

  • Content quality matters
  • Authority/credibility matters
  • Relevance to query matters

What I don’t know:

  • Do backlinks matter for AI?
  • Does domain authority translate to AI authority?
  • How do they evaluate “expertise”?
  • Is recency weighted differently?
  • What’s the role of structured data?

What I’ve observed:

  • Some high-ranking Google pages never get AI citations
  • Some lower-ranking pages get cited frequently
  • Brand mentions seem to matter
  • Reddit gets cited despite low traditional authority

This feels like a different game. What have you all figured out?

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AI_Ranking_Researcher Expert AI Visibility Research Lead · December 24, 2025

I’ve spent 18 months researching this. Here’s what we know:

Primary AI Citation Factors:

FactorImportanceNotes
Query-content matchVery HighDirect relevance to specific query
Content clarityVery HighExtractable, clear answers
Source authorityHighE-E-A-T signals, brand recognition
Topical depthHighComprehensive coverage
Content freshnessMedium-HighEspecially for current topics
Cross-source corroborationMediumOther sources citing same info
Structured formatMediumTables, lists, clear hierarchy
Google rankingsMediumIndirect signal of trust

What matters LESS than in Google SEO:

  • Backlink quantity (though quality still matters)
  • Keyword density/optimization
  • Page speed (still matters, but less weighted)
  • Internal linking structure

What matters MORE than in Google SEO:

  • Brand/entity recognition
  • Author expertise signals
  • Content extractability
  • Cross-platform consistency

The key difference: Google ranks pages. AI cites passages. You need content that has citation-worthy passages.

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Backlinks_Debate Link Building Specialist · December 24, 2025
Replying to AI_Ranking_Researcher

Let me dig into the backlinks question since that’s my specialty:

Do backlinks matter for AI visibility?

Direct effect: Minimal AI systems don’t crawl your backlink profile the way Google does. They don’t count referring domains.

Indirect effect: Significant

  1. Backlinks help you rank on Google
  2. Google rankings influence AI visibility (documented correlation)
  3. Being linked by authoritative sites = more mentions = more entity recognition

What we’ve observed:

Site TypeBacklink ProfileAI Citation Rate
High DA, many backlinksStrong18%
High DA, few backlinksStrong15%
Low DA, many backlinksWeak6%
Low DA, few backlinksWeak4%

Interpretation: Domain authority (which backlinks help build) correlates with AI visibility. But the correlation is weaker than with Google rankings.

My recommendation: Don’t build links specifically for AI visibility. Build them for Google rankings and brand awareness - those translate to AI visibility indirectly.

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Authority_Signals_Deep_Dive Content Strategist · December 24, 2025

Let me break down how AI systems seem to evaluate authority:

Author-level signals:

  • Named author with bio
  • Credentials relevant to topic
  • Track record (other published work)
  • Social proof (followers, recognition)

Brand-level signals:

  • Brand recognition (Wikidata/Knowledge Graph)
  • Consistent NAP across platforms
  • Press coverage and mentions
  • Social presence and engagement

Content-level signals:

  • Citations to authoritative sources
  • Original research/data
  • Expert quotes or contributions
  • Comprehensive, accurate information

Cross-web signals:

  • Mentioned by other authoritative sites
  • Cited in forums (Reddit especially)
  • Referenced in news/publications
  • Consistent information across sources

What this means practically:

Signal TypeHow to Build
Author authorityAuthor bios, credentials, bylines
Brand authorityPR, mentions, consistent presence
Content authorityResearch, data, expert contributions
Cross-web authorityGet mentioned by others, forum presence

This is why Reddit gets cited despite low “traditional” authority - it has strong cross-web mention patterns and authentic user signals.

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Platform_Differences · December 23, 2025

Each AI platform weights factors differently. Here’s what I’ve observed:

ChatGPT:

  • Heavy weight on training data (historical authority)
  • Brand recognition matters a lot
  • Prefers comprehensive, established sources
  • Real-time search follows Bing signals

Perplexity:

  • Real-time relevance is paramount
  • Recency weighted heavily
  • Source diversity matters (cites multiple sources)
  • Strong Reddit/forum weighting

Google AI Overview:

  • Google rankings are primary signal
  • E-E-A-T signals from Google’s evaluation
  • Structured data helps
  • Follows traditional SEO patterns most

Claude:

  • Training data only (no real-time search yet)
  • Authority from training corpus
  • Hard to optimize directly

The implication: You can’t optimize for “AI” generically. Each platform is different.

The unifying factors: Content quality, clarity, and expertise help everywhere. Start there.

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Structured_Data_Impact Technical SEO · December 23, 2025

On structured data specifically:

Does schema markup help AI visibility?

Our testing (200 pages):

Schema TypeCitation Rate WithoutCitation Rate With
FAQPage8%14%
HowTo7%12%
Article9%11%
Product6%9%
None7%N/A

Why structured data helps:

  1. Helps AI parse content structure
  2. Clarifies entity relationships
  3. Signals content type and purpose
  4. Makes extraction more reliable

Most impactful schema: FAQPage and HowTo - these directly align with question-answer format AI prefers.

Implementation priority:

  1. FAQPage on FAQ content (biggest lift)
  2. HowTo on tutorial content
  3. Article schema with author info
  4. Product schema for e-commerce

Caveat: Schema is a signal, not a guarantee. Great content without schema beats bad content with schema.

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Recency_Factor News Publisher · December 23, 2025

On the recency question:

How much does freshness matter for AI?

Depends heavily on query type:

Query TypeRecency Importance
Current eventsCritical
Industry trendsVery High
Product comparisonsHigh
How-to guidesMedium
Definitions/conceptsLow
Historical contentLow

Platform differences:

  • Perplexity: Real-time, heavily weights recency
  • ChatGPT Search: Current when search enabled
  • ChatGPT base: Training cutoff limits recency
  • Google AI Overview: Current via index

What we do:

  • Update key content monthly with fresh stats
  • Add “last updated” dates prominently
  • Refresh seasonal content before seasons
  • Keep evergreen content evergreen

The balance: For evergreen topics, authority beats recency. For current topics, recency can beat authority.

Know which category your content is in.

RP
Reddit_Paradox_Explained Expert · December 22, 2025

You mentioned Reddit’s high citation rate despite low “traditional authority.” Here’s why:

Why Reddit gets cited so much:

  1. Authentic user signals

    • Upvotes = community validation
    • Comments = engagement depth
    • Questions/answers format matches AI queries
  2. Training data presence

    • Heavy in ChatGPT training
    • Used by most LLM training
  3. Real experience

    • Users sharing actual experiences
    • Less marketing polish, more authenticity
    • E-E-A-T “Experience” signal
  4. Question-answer format

    • Already structured as Q&A
    • Easy for AI to extract
    • Matches user query patterns

What this tells us about AI “authority”:

AI systems value DIFFERENT authority signals than Google:

  • Authenticity over polish
  • Experience over credentials (sometimes)
  • Community validation over editorial review
  • Natural language over SEO language

The lesson: Traditional authority metrics (DA, backlinks) don’t tell the full story. AI systems have their own authority evaluation.

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Entity_Recognition SEO Consultant · December 22, 2025

One factor that’s underrated: Entity recognition.

What is entity recognition for AI? AI systems need to understand what/who you are as an entity - a brand, organization, or author.

How AI recognizes entities:

  • Wikipedia/Wikidata presence
  • Google Knowledge Panel
  • Consistent mentions across web
  • LinkedIn, Crunchbase profiles
  • Press coverage with consistent info

Why entity recognition matters: If AI systems “know” who you are, they trust you more.

Testing this: Ask ChatGPT: “What is [your brand]?”

If it gives accurate info: You have entity recognition. If it hallucinates or doesn’t know: You have a problem.

Building entity recognition:

  1. Claim/create Wikidata entry (if notable enough)
  2. Ensure consistent NAP across platforms
  3. Get mentioned in contexts AI would learn from
  4. Build Knowledge Panel through PR/Wikipedia

The ROI: Brands with strong entity recognition get cited 2-3x more than unknown brands, even with similar content quality.

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Correlation_vs_Causation Data Scientist · December 22, 2025

Important caveat on all these “factors”:

We’re mostly observing correlations, not confirmed causation.

What we actually know:

  • Certain content characteristics correlate with higher citation rates
  • We can’t see inside AI systems’ actual algorithms
  • Correlation ≠ causation
  • AI systems change constantly

What this means: All these “ranking factors” are educated guesses based on observation.

The safe bets (correlate strongly):

  • Content quality and clarity
  • Query relevance
  • Source authority
  • Structured format

The uncertain areas:

  • Exact weighting of factors
  • Platform-specific algorithms
  • How factors interact
  • How algorithms change over time

Practical approach: Optimize for the fundamentals (quality, clarity, authority). Track results. Iterate based on what you observe.

Don’t over-optimize for “AI ranking factors” you’re not sure exist. Focus on creating genuinely valuable content.

RF
Ranking_Factors_Hunt OP SEO Director · December 21, 2025

This is comprehensive. My takeaways:

The Framework I’ll Use:

High-confidence factors to optimize:

  1. Content clarity and extractability
  2. Direct relevance to queries
  3. Author/brand authority signals
  4. Comprehensive topic coverage
  5. Structured data (FAQPage, HowTo)

Medium-confidence factors:

  1. Recency (topic-dependent)
  2. Cross-web mentions
  3. Entity recognition
  4. Schema markup

Low-confidence/indirect factors:

  1. Backlinks (indirect via Google rankings)
  2. Traditional DA metrics
  3. Technical SEO (still matters, just less)

Key differences from Google SEO:

  • Less emphasis on links
  • More emphasis on entity/brand recognition
  • Content extractability matters more
  • Platform-specific optimization matters

What I’m doing differently:

  1. Adding author bios and credentials
  2. Implementing FAQPage schema everywhere
  3. Building entity recognition (Wikidata, mentions)
  4. Tracking with Am I Cited to see what actually works

The meta-insight: AI “ranking factors” are evolving. Track, test, iterate. Don’t assume today’s factors are permanent.

Thanks everyone!

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Frequently Asked Questions

What factors determine AI citation?
Key factors include content authority and credibility, direct relevance to the query, content clarity and structure, source recency and accuracy, and cross-platform reputation. Unlike Google, backlinks matter less directly while content quality and topical authority matter more.
Do backlinks matter for AI visibility?
Backlinks matter indirectly. They help you rank on Google, which influences AI visibility since AI systems often use Google rankings as a trust signal. But AI systems also evaluate authority through other signals like brand mentions, expert credentials, and citation patterns.
How does AI evaluate content authority?
AI systems look at E-E-A-T signals: author credentials, demonstrated expertise, brand recognition, citation by other authoritative sources, and consistency across the web. Content that establishes clear expertise gets cited more frequently.
Are AI ranking factors different for each platform?
Yes, each platform weights factors differently. Perplexity emphasizes real-time relevance and recency. ChatGPT values comprehensive, authoritative content. Google AI Overview favors content that already ranks well. But quality fundamentals help across all platforms.

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